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rayzor6
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Global Trader (5)Has Written 1 Review

#1 posted July 2, 2008 at 8:53pm (EDT)  

 

I a good timeshare like arrangement at a cabin along the lake now, and would rather just burn a copy of my movie collection rather than take them back and forth (about an hour and a half away).

I bought an external DVD burner that uses the PC, but I need software to help me past the copyright protection. Anyone have some suggestions?

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The_Fall
GameTZ SubscriberGold Good Trader
Global Trader (6)

#2 posted July 2, 2008 at 8:57pm (EDT)  

rayzor6 wrote:
> I a good timeshare like arrangement at a cabin along the lake now,
> and would rather just burn a copy of my movie collection rather than
> take them back and forth (about an hour and a half away).
>
> I bought an external DVD burner that uses the PC, but I need software
> to help me past the copyright protection. Anyone have some suggestions?
>

Did you try dvd shrink?
kzn
happy pillGameTZ SubscriberDouble Gold Good Trader
rocketcube
Global Trader (5)

#3 posted July 2, 2008 at 9:02pm (EDT)  

anydvd works


james2006
Bronze Good TraderGlobal Trader (3)Has Written 23 Reviews Ireland

#4 posted July 2, 2008 at 9:28pm (EDT)  

you didn't hear this from me

DVD region free
will by pass anymovie, and allow your burning program to do its stuff
But just to let you know, copying movies is illegal! While games you
are allowed to make a backup!
Or so I am led to believe!
James
Scavenger4
Triple Gold Good TraderGlobal Trader (7)

#5 posted July 2, 2008 at 9:29pm (EDT)  

james2006 wrote:
> you didn't hear this from me
>
> DVD region free
> will by pass anymovie, and allow your burning program to do its stuff
> But just to let you know, copying movies is illegal! While games you
> are allowed to make a backup!
> Or so I am led to believe!
> James

Quoted for proof!

Your going down now James!!
james2006
Bronze Good TraderGlobal Trader (3)Has Written 23 Reviews Ireland

#6 posted July 2, 2008 at 9:42pm (EDT)  

Ahh you think you have me ...!

I fought the law, and the law wo....
oh hey wait ....!

Actually the program was intended so that you could play any
DVD region on your PC. So that you could watch regions 1-8
without having to change your computers region.

Hence the name Region free! But the off shoot of it, is that it
also bypasses the copy protection!

but again you didn't hear that from me!
And quoting me is still not proof! I'll deny it until the
end!
James
invisibleink
Meow? Meow?? Meow Meow?? Meow. Meow.. Meow! MEOW!!!GameTZ SubscriberGold Good Trader

#7 posted July 3, 2008 at 12:13am (EDT)  

james2006 wrote:
> Ahh you think you have me ...!
>
> I fought the law, and the law wo....
> oh hey wait ....!
>
> Actually the program was intended so that you could play any
> DVD region on your PC. So that you could watch regions 1-8
> without having to change your computers region.
>
> Hence the name Region free! But the off shoot of it, is that it
> also bypasses the copy protection!
>
> but again you didn't hear that from me!
> And quoting me is still not proof! I'll deny it until the
> end!
> James
>

o rlly?



willyum
Go Ninja Go Ninja Go!GameTZ Gold SubscriberQuadruple Gold Good Trader
Global Trader (15)

#8 posted July 3, 2008 at 12:40am (EDT)  

I hear that AnyDVD in conjunction with DVDShrink and Nero works wonders. But that's just what I heard.


ENIX
250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good TraderGlobal Trader (8)Has Written 13 Reviews Japan

#9 posted July 3, 2008 at 7:34am (EDT)  

DVDFab Decrypter I hear is a good one. You can't do anything super great with it unless you register it though. Basically you can rip a DVD and remove protection in the process. Then run it through DVD Shrink and you should be good.

Also try using RipIt4Me with DVD Decrypter installed (not DVDFab).
rayzor6
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Global Trader (5)Has Written 1 Review

#10 posted July 3, 2008 at 8:05am (EDT)  

thanks for all these suggestions.

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Sheesh
Bow down to the McCain toastGameTZ SubscriberDouble Gold Good Trader

#11 posted July 3, 2008 at 10:30am (EDT)  

AutoGK + DVDshrink = Free


The lavender flower in my tea is fragrant.
Xena
Double Gold Good TraderGlobal Trader (5)Has Written 2 Reviews

#12 posted July 3, 2008 at 11:46am (EDT)  

CloneDVD worked well for me.




John
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#13 posted July 3, 2008 at 3:23pm (EDT)  

DVDShrink is usually plenty all by itself.

- John...

I kissed a girl.
(And I liked it.)
_kate_
GameTZ SubscriberHas Written 1 Review
Canada This user is in chat NOW

#14 posted July 3, 2008 at 3:28pm (EDT)  

John wrote:
> DVDShrink is usually plenty all by itself.

qft *yes*

james2006
Bronze Good TraderGlobal Trader (3)Has Written 23 Reviews Ireland

#15 posted July 3, 2008 at 5:08pm (EDT)
edited July 3, 2008 at 7:10pm (EDT)  

OH really!!!

invisibleink wrote:
> I think james is the best in the world!

Scavenger4 wrote:
> Yes I agree! And I worship him too!

invisibleink wrote:
> Yeah I so would take the rap for him, I wouldn't let him go to jail!

Scavenger4 wrote:
> No me, I did it!


Awwh! lads, too much, but much appreciated!
James
Scavenger4
Triple Gold Good TraderGlobal Trader (7)

#16 posted July 3, 2008 at 6:44pm (EDT)  

While I don't remember saying that, I can't argue the fact its right there before my eyes!

This man is made of magic!!!
invisibleink
Meow? Meow?? Meow Meow?? Meow. Meow.. Meow! MEOW!!!GameTZ SubscriberGold Good Trader

#17 posted July 3, 2008 at 6:46pm (EDT)  

i dont recall saying that


james2006
Bronze Good TraderGlobal Trader (3)Has Written 23 Reviews Ireland

#18 posted July 3, 2008 at 7:11pm (EDT)  

james2006 wrote:
> damn lads, you weren't suppose to agree!!!
> James
DreamSymphony
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Has Written 13 Reviews

#19 posted July 3, 2008 at 7:14pm (EDT)  

DVDShrink usually works fine for me. Sometimes it can't decode disney dvds though.
Sheesh
Bow down to the McCain toastGameTZ SubscriberDouble Gold Good Trader

#20 posted July 3, 2008 at 7:39pm (EDT)
edited July 3, 2008 at 7:41pm (EDT)  

I'd like to ask if Ray has considered a slim PSP w/ component cables and a few memory cards.

I'd also like to ask in general if it is technically illegal to convert the vob to avi/mpeg-2/4 and use them on the device of your choice as long as you continue to own the disk.


The lavender flower in my tea makes me wonder.
7keys
Silver Good Trader This user is on the site NOW (8 minutes and 26 seconds ago)

#21 posted July 3, 2008 at 7:54pm (EDT)  

james2006 wrote:

> But just to let you know, copying movies is illegal! While games you
> are allowed to make a backup!


I thought it was legal to make a backup of DVD movies if you owned the orignal.

Can you actually burn dvds with dvdshrink?

I have some crappy dvd burning program (NTI) that I can't get to burn dvdshrinked stuff.

Any good freeware burning programs?
John
Bubble Bobble FTW!GameTZ Gold SubscriberGameTZ Full Moderator
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Global Trader (13)

#22 posted July 3, 2008 at 7:57pm (EDT)  

Sheesh wrote:
> I'd also like to ask in general if it is technically illegal to convert
> the vob to avi/mpeg-2/4 and use them on the device of your choice
> as long as you continue to own the disk.

My understanding is that this would be acceptable. There are some that argue that even the archival backup is illegal for most uses period. I think that over-does it and ignores the intent of the law.

In other words, some would tell you that it is certainly illegal and would also do so even if the conversion was not involved.

But, personally, I think it qualifies and is within your legal rights.

- John...

I kissed a girl.
(And I liked it.)
John
Bubble Bobble FTW!GameTZ Gold SubscriberGameTZ Full Moderator
300 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
Global Trader (13)

#23 posted July 3, 2008 at 7:58pm (EDT)  

james2006 wrote:
> But just to let you know, copying movies is illegal! While games you
> are allowed to make a backup!

I believe this to be incorrect -- but interpretations of the law vary.

- John...

I kissed a girl.
(And I liked it.)
rayzor6
Longest Running Same Avatar on GTZ!GameTZ Subscriber250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
Global Trader (5)Has Written 1 Review

#24 posted July 3, 2008 at 8:38pm (EDT)  

Sheesh...I dont' go that route because I want movies on the TV and I have a portable DVD player...

And honestly, I don't care about any legality of the issue. I supported the art by buying probably most of my DVD's brand new in the stores....so I while I could even put them all in a binder and travel with it...I don't want to. I won't be there buy one time in the winter and I slowly burn a few movies and take them to the cabin. Home movies stay at home and cabin movies stay at the cabin.

Also I know no one was challenging it...I just wanted to state that for the record *grin*

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james2006
Bronze Good TraderGlobal Trader (3)Has Written 23 Reviews Ireland

#25 posted July 3, 2008 at 9:15pm (EDT)
edited July 3, 2008 at 9:16pm (EDT)  

Some sites
http://money.cnn.com/2004/02/24/commentary/ontechn...
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1025-5162749.html
http://dvd-copy-review.upickreviews.com/is-copying...
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=61547
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/archive/index.php/t...

But I ain't going to challenge you rayzor6

If you want to do that ... rock on!
James
kzn
happy pillGameTZ SubscriberDouble Gold Good Trader
rocketcube
Global Trader (5)

#26 posted July 3, 2008 at 11:28pm (EDT)  

John wrote:
> Sheesh wrote:
>> I'd also like to ask in general if it is technically illegal to
> convert
>> the vob to avi/mpeg-2/4 and use them on the device of your choice
>> as long as you continue to own the disk.
>
> My understanding is that this would be acceptable. There are some
> that argue that even the archival backup is illegal for most uses
> period. I think that over-does it and ignores the intent of the law.
>
> In other words, some would tell you that it is certainly illegal and
> would also do so even if the conversion was not involved.
>
> But, personally, I think it qualifies and is within your legal rights.
>
And as long as you dont give it to anyone else?


Bishop
GameTZ SubscriberTriple Gold Good Trader
Global Trader (3)

#27 posted July 4, 2008 at 1:23am (EDT)  

DVDecryptor and DvdShrink
John
Bubble Bobble FTW!GameTZ Gold SubscriberGameTZ Full Moderator
300 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
Global Trader (13)

#28 posted July 4, 2008 at 3:37pm (EDT)  

kzn wrote:
> And as long as you dont give it to anyone else?

Correct, of course. Actually, if you give the ORIGINAL to someone else, you can give the copy to them too. But you can't keep either and give the other to someone else.

- John...

I kissed a girl.
(And I liked it.)
ndrake
GameTZ SubscriberGold Good Trader
Has Written 3 Reviews This user is on the site NOW (6 minutes and 52 seconds ago)

#29 posted July 5, 2008 at 8:46am (EDT)  

John wrote:
> Sheesh wrote:
>> I'd also like to ask in general if it is technically illegal to
> convert
>> the vob to avi/mpeg-2/4 and use them on the device of your choice
>> as long as you continue to own the disk.
>
> My understanding is that this would be acceptable. There are some
> that argue that even the archival backup is illegal for most uses
> period. I think that over-does it and ignores the intent of the law.
>
> In other words, some would tell you that it is certainly illegal and
> would also do so even if the conversion was not involved.
>
> But, personally, I think it qualifies and is within your legal rights.
>

Doesn't the DMCA make this illegal? Since you have to break CSS to copy the DVD.
John
Bubble Bobble FTW!GameTZ Gold SubscriberGameTZ Full Moderator
300 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
Global Trader (13)

#30 posted July 5, 2008 at 2:17pm (EDT)  

You can find thousands of people to argue either side of that. You'd be better to Google than to discuss that one here, sorry.

- John...

I kissed a girl.
(And I liked it.)
mackey
GameTZ SubscriberDouble Gold Good Trader
Has Written 1 Review

#31 posted July 5, 2008 at 2:54pm (EDT)  

Ray is discovering the joys of pirating. Our mantra "It's just easier."

-
Today's Mark Mackey, he gets high on you.
ryanflucas
Bond, James Bond.GameTZ Gold Subscriber700 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
Global Trader (14)

#32 posted July 5, 2008 at 3:09pm (EDT)  

AnyDVD HD & CloneDVD2 work well together. I setup my uncle with one of those hard disk players and ripped his dvd collection into the drive so he could watch them like a tivo without needing to flip discs. Its great for season sets.

I think the legality is a gray area so there's no absolute set in stone rules. Some new dvd's I've seen come with an iPod version on the same disc.



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